Comments on: Death Is My Exit Strategy, Says Craig Newmark http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/ Communication in the Digital Age Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:12:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Albnyc http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1481 Albnyc Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:28:17 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1481 zzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzz

]]> By: Delia http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1480 Delia Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:29:37 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1480 you are welcome! take care! D. you are welcome! take care! D.

]]> By: Mark Rose http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1479 Mark Rose Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:50:57 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1479 Delia: Thanks. I'll do some investigating. M Delia:

Thanks. I’ll do some investigating.

M

]]> By: Delia http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1478 Delia Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:29:15 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1478 Mark, Sorry about the delay... (was away for the day). I disagree (re: deceit and a good PR game are often synonymous): there may be a fine line, but there is always a line. If you are really interested in this, I suggest you take a look at his prior claims on the issue: he has repeatedly said for a long long time that he is not going to sell. He has asked for and accepted the community's help: people have helped *because* of that -- he is still getting free work based on that claim to this day. I'm not familiar with the details in the case of Amazon but if they would have made anywhere in the range of claims Craig/craigslist has made, I think we would have heard about it. As far as I'm aware, Craigslist is a very special case as far as its history, claims and benefits derived from those claims. If Craig ends-up selling, I believe there would be enough evidence of fraud, for instance. Delia P.S. re: competitors; the way I see it, the centralized model for classifieds is breaking down (this model is what made craigslist a success): the new winners will be those who make best use of technology and *really* help their customers (craigslist does neither, it spends as little as it can get away with on customer service and improvements and appears to have no intention to change). P.P. S. As to my blog, it's simply a chance put down what I'm seeing and, no, I'm not affiliated with any groups. D. Mark,

Sorry about the delay… (was away for the day). I disagree (re: deceit and a good PR game are often synonymous): there may be a fine line, but there is always a line.

If you are really interested in this, I suggest you take a look at his prior claims on the issue: he has repeatedly said for a long long time that he is not going to sell. He has asked for and accepted the community’s help: people have helped *because* of that — he is still getting free work based on that claim to this day.

I’m not familiar with the details in the case of Amazon but if they would have made anywhere in the range of claims Craig/craigslist has made, I think we would have heard about it. As far as I’m aware, Craigslist is a very special case as far as its history, claims and benefits derived from those claims. If Craig ends-up selling, I believe there would be enough evidence of fraud, for instance.

Delia

P.S. re: competitors; the way I see it, the centralized model for classifieds is breaking down (this model is what made craigslist a success): the new winners will be those who make best use of technology and *really* help their customers (craigslist does neither, it spends as little as it can get away with on customer service and improvements and appears to have no intention to change).

P.P. S. As to my blog, it’s simply a chance put down what I’m seeing and, no, I’m not affiliated with any groups. D.

]]> By: Mark Rose http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1477 Mark Rose Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:14:37 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1477 Delia: Unfortunately, deceit and a good PR game are often synonymous. Craig said "Nothing altruisitic but selling doesn't feel right now." He's not lying. Selling may feel better when the price is higher. The best exit strategy may be the denial of an exit strategy - that's a PR game. Amazon solicited the greater community out there and co-opted free content with user-generated reviews to build community (different business model, I know). I checked out your blog - 'craigslist criticism.' Is your interest personal or professional? Are you affiliated with any group that has issues with craigslist? Who are the craigslist competitors you refer to? Mark Delia:

Unfortunately, deceit and a good PR game are often synonymous. Craig said “Nothing altruisitic but selling doesn’t feel right now.” He’s not lying. Selling may feel better when the price is higher. The best exit strategy may be the denial of an exit strategy - that’s a PR game. Amazon solicited the greater community out there and co-opted free content with user-generated reviews to build community (different business model, I know). I checked out your blog - ‘craigslist criticism.’ Is your interest personal or professional? Are you affiliated with any group that has issues with craigslist? Who are the craigslist competitors you refer to?

Mark

]]> By: Delia http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1476 Delia Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:49:32 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1476 Mark, I agree... but I'm afraid this goes *way* beyond PR -- it has deceit written all over it! D. Mark, I agree… but I’m afraid this goes *way* beyond PR — it has deceit written all over it! D.

]]> By: Mark Rose http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1475 Mark Rose Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:44:18 +0000 http://www.prblognews.com/2007/06/01/death-is-my-exit-strategy-says-craig-newmark/#comment-1475 Delia: As Michael Corleone said, everybody's got their price. The Bancroft family of Dow Jones is going to meet Rupert Murdoch this week on a buyout offer. Dig that combo. I can't for a minute believe that Craig or anybody in a position to profit at craigslist is not keenly aware of their value and how they might capitalize on it. They play a good PR game. Mark Delia:

As Michael Corleone said, everybody’s got their price. The Bancroft family of Dow Jones is going to meet Rupert Murdoch this week on a buyout offer. Dig that combo. I can’t for a minute believe that Craig or anybody in a position to profit at craigslist is not keenly aware of their value and how they might capitalize on it. They play a good PR game.

Mark

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